FIFA: No Re-Run Of Qatar World Cup Bid

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A report by FIFA will not recommend Qatar is stripped of the 2022 World Cup.

It is understood that corruption investigators have not found evidence of wrongdoing that would threaten Qatar staging the 2022 tournament.

the report is expected to be critical of England's bid.

It is understood that England's wooing of Jack Warner, the former FIFA vice-president who resigned in disgrace in 2010, is to be highlighted. These include paying for a £35,000 gala dinner for Caribbean football officials and organising an England friendly against Trinidad.

Michael Garcia, an American lawyer who conducted the investigation, examined the bidding processes by all countries who contested the 2010 vote for the World Cups. FIFA's executive committee awarded the 2018 World Cup to Russia over England, who won just two votes, plus joint bids by Holland/Belgium and Spain/Portugal. The 2022 tournament went to Qatar - who beat the United States, Korea, Japan and Australia.

It is not expected that any of the bidding countries will face sanctions due to the investigation but that recommendations will be made on how FIFA conducts bids going forward.

FIFA will publish a 42-page summary of a two-year investigation into the controversial bidding process on Thursday morning.

investigators will criticise several of the bidding nations for the two tournaments, including Qatar, England, Australia and Russia.

Crucially for Qatar’s state’s chances of staging the 2022 tournament however the report does not conclude there were guilty of grave breaches of FIFA’s bidding rules.

The conduct of the Qatar bid, which was backed by a huge budget that far exceeded all its opponents, is likely to be criticised, but in the words of one source with knowledge of the investigation “there is no smoking gun”.

Qatari Mohamed Bin Hammam, formerly a member of the executive committee, is alleged to have distributed millions of pounds to football officials, but Qatar 2022 have always denied he was working on their behalf.

Several of the bids that took part can expect censure for aspects of their campaigns.

England may be censured for spending £35,000 to sponsor a football dinner in Trinidad at the request of discredited former FIFA vice-president Jack Warner, and handing out Mulberry handbags to the wives of FIFA ex-co members.

Offers for the England team to play friendlies in Trinidad and Thailand, both of which had voting members, may also be mentioned.

Australia may be censured for offering development funds to countries with voting members, and Russia may be criticised for non-co-operation.

England’s hapless bid, which gained only two votes, may effectively be penalised for having co-operated fully with the investigation by US attorney Michael Garcia.

Not all bids have done so, with Bin Hammam among those who has refused to speak to the investigation. Garcia has no power to compel witnesses to testify if like Bin Hammam they are no longer involved in football.

There may also be examination of allegations that the Qatar and Spain-Portugal bids colluded in a vote-trading deal. FIFA abandoned a previous investigation citing a lack of evidence to substantiate the allegation, which was considered an open secret by the two bids opponents.

The summary published on Thursday has been written by Hans Joachim-Eckert, the German judge who chairs FIFA’s ethics committee.

He will ultimately decide which bids and individuals should face charges under FIFA’s rules, but it is unclear if he will make those decisions public in his report.

[shining stars]

absolute joke.

[sgtpeppr]

bribery/corruption or not, they shouldnt get the world cup. its all but been confirmed that it will be a winter comp, which is just ridiculous. december is the busiest time of year for euro leagues, and its unbelievable that they expect to pause the season to go play in a major tournament. what about all the non-national players? they just sit around for a month? not to mention the injuries and fatigue for those involved. its way to much of a disruption. im all for spreading the world game to other continents, but not at the expense of the game itself...
absolute joke is right.

[Bruno]

Rightly put, this whole thing has been a complete joke. Sepp Blatter and his cronies are such a bunch of cunts. FIFA having an 'ethics committee' is a joke in itself. I truly hope that this whole Qatar World Cup blows up in their face.

[Howdo]

The whole decision making about hosting the World Cup is bollocks, look at the chaos that was made in South Africa in 2010, half the stadiums was still being built before it began, same with Brazil this year, why pay all this money to host an event like this when you clearly don't have the facilities to accommodate it, what do South Africa and Brazil do with these stadiums they have built for the event now? It's a total waste of money. And to have it in Russia in 2018 is barmy, why have a kind of event like this when there is so much trouble in the country along with the amount of racism that is rife there, it's beyond a joke. I can understand that the event has to be spread out but come on, Qatar is in no state to host the World Cup and won't be in 2022 as well, Fifa are just a bunch of corrupt cunts and that twat sitting right at the top Sepp Twatface needs dethroning sharpish

[Bruno]

Now the two members of the ethics committee are accusing FIFA of fudging their report.

I for one am SHOCKED by this turn of events.

[sgtpeppr]

Nov 13, 2014 21:44:14 GMT 9.5 Howdo said:

The whole decision making about hosting the World Cup is bollocks, look at the chaos that was made in South Africa in 2010, half the stadiums was still being built before it began, same with Brazil this year, why pay all this money to host an event like this when you clearly don't have the facilities to accommodate it, what do South Africa and Brazil do with these stadiums they have built for the event now? It's a total waste of money. And to have it in Russia in 2018 is barmy, why have a kind of event like this when there is so much trouble in the country along with the amount of racism that is rife there, it's beyond a joke. I can understand that the event has to be spread out but come on, Qatar is in no state to host the World Cup and won't be in 2022 as well, Fifa are just a bunch of corrupt cunts and that twat sitting right at the top Sepp Twatface needs dethroning sharpish

i dont mind giving it to countries that dont have the facilities yet. thats why its decided so far in advance, so they can get to where they need to be. granted, brazil made some bad decisions on where to put their new stadiums, but overall, itd be pretty harsh to deny the no.1 international team of all time. and it was a good comp, so they pulled it off. personally i dont care if its a total waste of money. if they decide they want to host it, then that should be enough. its none of my business how a country spends their cash. and as long as its a good tournament, then im happy.
russia has racism, but not as much as s.africa, and that went down alright. italy hosted in the middle of a fascist regime and didnt have too many issues. i think it could be an alright event in 2018. in fact, there hasnt really been a disaster tournament in my lifetime, which to me shows that we're to critical of nations before they can prove themselves to be good hosts.
but this qatar business is just wrong (altho, i do believe theyll have the facilities to host by 2022). again, i couldnt care less if it was won on bribes and corruption, im in it for the football, not all the admin sh!t. but changing the whole structure of world football to accommodate a nation that could never have hosted the cup in summer is stoopid. surely there should be prerequisites to putting your name in the hat? which unfortunately means that some nations should never host a WC...like qatar.
and to have a FIFA run investigation into FIFA corruption is just asking for things to be swept under the rug.
obviously just my opinions...

[Howdo]

Nov 13, 2014 22:45:33 GMT 9.5 sgtpeppr said:

Nov 13, 2014 21:44:14 GMT 9.5 Howdo said:

The whole decision making about hosting the World Cup is bollocks, look at the chaos that was made in South Africa in 2010, half the stadiums was still being built before it began, same with Brazil this year, why pay all this money to host an event like this when you clearly don't have the facilities to accommodate it, what do South Africa and Brazil do with these stadiums they have built for the event now? It's a total waste of money. And to have it in Russia in 2018 is barmy, why have a kind of event like this when there is so much trouble in the country along with the amount of racism that is rife there, it's beyond a joke. I can understand that the event has to be spread out but come on, Qatar is in no state to host the World Cup and won't be in 2022 as well, Fifa are just a bunch of corrupt cunts and that twat sitting right at the top Sepp Twatface needs dethroning sharpish

i dont mind giving it to countries that dont have the facilities yet. thats why its decided so far in advance, so they can get to where they need to be. granted, brazil made some bad decisions on where to put their new stadiums, but overall, itd be pretty harsh to deny the no.1 international team of all time. and it was a good comp, so they pulled it off. personally i dont care if its a total waste of money. if they decide they want to host it, then that should be enough. its none of my business how a country spends their cash. and as long as its a good tournament, then im happy.
russia has racism, but not as much as s.africa, and that went down alright. italy hosted in the middle of a fascist regime and didnt have too many issues. i think it could be an alright event in 2018. in fact, there hasnt really been a disaster tournament in my lifetime, which to me shows that we're to critical of nations before they can prove themselves to be good hosts.
but this qatar business is just wrong (altho, i do believe theyll have the facilities to host by 2022). again, i couldnt care less if it was won on bribes and corruption, im in it for the football, not all the admin sh!t. but changing the whole structure of world football to accommodate a nation that could never have hosted the cup in summer is stoopid. surely there should be prerequisites to putting your name in the hat? which unfortunately means that some nations should never host a WC...like qatar.
and to have a FIFA run investigation into FIFA corruption is just asking for things to be swept under the rug.
obviously just my opinions...

Fair points mate. When the World Cup was being held in South Africa I was working with a guy who lived in SA for 30 years and he was telling me of all the stuff that goes on which you don't see or hear about, and he said although at the time it was good for the country, you look back now and has it done SA any good? From his opinion it has made the country worse. It looked great on TV and was a good tournament for the fans tho. I just think the money that was invested into building the stadiums could have been more wisely spent for a country like that. Look at England, the last time we held a tournament like that was in 1996 and obviosuly we last time we had the WC was in 66, a country like England should have had it more than that as we have the better stadiums and are already ready to host it, same with Spain and even Holland.

[theyknowwhatimean]

Disgrace.

[sgtpeppr]

Nov 14, 2014 0:21:14 GMT 9.5 Howdo said:

Fair points mate. When the World Cup was being held in South Africa I was working with a guy who lived in SA for 30 years and he was telling me of all the stuff that goes on which you don't see or hear about, and he said although at the time it was good for the country, you look back now and has it done SA any good? From his opinion it has made the country worse. It looked great on TV and was a good tournament for the fans tho. I just think the money that was invested into building the stadiums could have been more wisely spent for a country like that. Look at England, the last time we held a tournament like that was in 1996 and obviosuly we last time we had the WC was in 66, a country like England should have had it more than that as we have the better stadiums and are already ready to host it, same with Spain and even Holland.

yeah, i agree that the for some countries (s.africa & brazil as you mentioned) probably have more important things they could spend money on than a month long extravagance. i doubt a single person in brazil was complaining tho...
but like i said, im in it for the actual football, not so much the politics of it.
also agree that england should get another shot at one. altho they arent the only winners to have only hosted once, and some deserving countries have never gotten the chance (holland for example). brazil and germany only recently got their second tournament, so its not that big a surprise that the poms havent got another shot yet. no-ones hosted three so theyre not that far behind. i dont think it should go exclusively to countries that are already in a position to host. otherwise it would be held in the same spots all the time.
i actually think australia would be an alright spot for one...a bit of work to do, but theyre financially and socially stable and they get behind things when needed.

[Howdo]

Nov 14, 2014 19:04:39 GMT 9.5 sgtpeppr said:

Nov 14, 2014 0:21:14 GMT 9.5 Howdo said:

Fair points mate. When the World Cup was being held in South Africa I was working with a guy who lived in SA for 30 years and he was telling me of all the stuff that goes on which you don't see or hear about, and he said although at the time it was good for the country, you look back now and has it done SA any good? From his opinion it has made the country worse. It looked great on TV and was a good tournament for the fans tho. I just think the money that was invested into building the stadiums could have been more wisely spent for a country like that. Look at England, the last time we held a tournament like that was in 1996 and obviosuly we last time we had the WC was in 66, a country like England should have had it more than that as we have the better stadiums and are already ready to host it, same with Spain and even Holland.

yeah, i agree that the for some countries (s.africa & brazil as you mentioned) probably have more important things they could spend money on than a month long extravagance. i doubt a single person in brazil was complaining tho...
but like i said, im in it for the actual football, not so much the politics of it.
also agree that england should get another shot at one. altho they arent the only winners to have only hosted once, and some deserving countries have never gotten the chance (holland for example). brazil and germany only recently got their second tournament, so its not that big a surprise that the poms havent got another shot yet. no-ones hosted three so theyre not that far behind. i dont think it should go exclusively to countries that are already in a position to host. otherwise it would be held in the same spots all the time.
i actually think australia would be an alright spot for one...a bit of work to do, but theyre financially and socially stable and they get behind things when needed.

Australia is an interesting one mate, I don't think it's big enough to host it in my opinion, and could the players cope with the heat if it's being played in June? I know their football league is picking up a bit tho so you never know. I've always fancied a Great Britain hosted World Cup but it would always be tricky with the home nations then, Scotland and Ireland have some great stadiums not just England. I'm all for the tournament to be held in new places but I do always keep an eye on what's happening and how they let Fifa get away with all the bribes and shit, everything about the Qatar bid stinks and fuck knows why nothing has been done about Blatter

I always look

[sgtpeppr]

Nov 14, 2014 21:56:15 GMT 9.5 Howdo said:

Nov 14, 2014 19:04:39 GMT 9.5 sgtpeppr said:

yeah, i agree that the for some countries (s.africa & brazil as you mentioned) probably have more important things they could spend money on than a month long extravagance. i doubt a single person in brazil was complaining tho...
but like i said, im in it for the actual football, not so much the politics of it.
also agree that england should get another shot at one. altho they arent the only winners to have only hosted once, and some deserving countries have never gotten the chance (holland for example). brazil and germany only recently got their second tournament, so its not that big a surprise that the poms havent got another shot yet. no-ones hosted three so theyre not that far behind. i dont think it should go exclusively to countries that are already in a position to host. otherwise it would be held in the same spots all the time.
i actually think australia would be an alright spot for one...a bit of work to do, but theyre financially and socially stable and they get behind things when needed.

Australia is an interesting one mate, I don't think it's big enough to host it in my opinion, and could the players cope with the heat if it's being played in June? I know their football league is picking up a bit tho so you never know. I've always fancied a Great Britain hosted World Cup but it would always be tricky with the home nations then, Scotland and Ireland have some great stadiums not just England. I'm all for the tournament to be held in new places but I do always keep an eye on what's happening and how they let Fifa get away with all the bribes and shit, everything about the Qatar bid stinks and fuck knows why nothing has been done about Blatter

I always look

its definitely big enough. 6 of the state capitals already have 70-100k stadium capacities and theres a couple more large arenas in other spots. plus they got the cash to build more, which wouldnt go to waste after the comp because its a very sport driven country. for a place with a relatively small population they still sell out league/afl & cricket matches on a weekly basis. also in june its winter, so heat wouldnt be a factor. at 15-20 degrees celcius in the afternoon you could almost call it perfect football weather.
the A-league is picking up, but its still absolutely shocking and not worth watching. the game will never reach dizzying heights in oz, but it does have a loyal fan-base and the aussies get behind things that showpiece the country to the rest of the world. the olympics in 2000 for example.
a GB cup would be interesting. and sharing isnt unprecedented (japorea & the holland/belgium euro). i could see england getting pissy about it tho.